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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:20 PM // 16:20   #1
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I was wondering if anyone else out there has attempted to do anything that the game designers never intended.

One little trick that I've been doing recently is committing suicide with my R/Mo13. I get a group together (usually in Ascalon) with the "challenge" of keeping me alive for 15 seconds. In fact, I offer 5k to anyone that can do it. Here's how I set it up:

"Listen up folks. Bring along any skills you'd like to make sure I stay alive. If I don't die in 15 seconds or less, you each get 5k. But if I DO die in 15 seconds or less, you get nothing. You have all the time you'd like to prepare. You choose when to start the timer, and where."

After everyone has found a good location far away from monsters, says they are ready and have cast all the spells on me they wanted (healing breeze, vital blessing, reversal of fortune, etc), they say "go" or something like that. I die in 1 second. We never even get into a single battle. I suggest that someone should res me. Someone attempts it. I don't even stand up and I'm dead again. I'm dead for good.

Question for everyone: how do I do it? I'm not in a battle, everyone has beefed up my life, spamming heals, and I have health regen from healing breeze. Feel free to ask all of the questions you want.


I'm sure as I do this more (and it's posted here now), it'll be copied by other people. So I'd like to copyright this mischief technique now.

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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26   #2
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Hmmm, Do you have skills beyond your level?

One way is to put unyielding aura on yourself, then take it off and you die.
But that won't explain how if you get res'd you die again.

Another way is probably that you are using all superior rune armor. At such a low level it kills you. Let them put the enchants and other things on you, switch armor then die.
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26   #3
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heath saccing spells (infuse health ect)
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:28 PM // 16:28   #4
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At level 13, you'd have 340 health. Five superior runes would drop you to 1. Use Infuse Health, and you die instantly. 15% DP means you can't be ressed by normal means.

Oh, Vital Blessing. Huh.
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29   #5
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you have a vamp weapon, and let your health degen down. and then when they say go you swap to some sup rune armor and kill yourself.
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:31 PM // 16:31   #6
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Nevermind - saw you are R/Mo.

level 13 is 340 health.You can easily have very low health. - essentially 0. Contemplation of Purity would drop all enchants on you, your health could technically be 0, with a vamp weapon switch. -425 health from a 55 monk setup would leave you with no health, but alive at 0 DP; switching to a vampiric weapon will kill you. CoP+ weapon swap.

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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:32 PM // 16:32   #7
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alright, you are a monk with several sup runes, and you are doing a mesmer spell that takes a percentege of your life, but it takes a percentege of your original life, not your current, and therefore you die, and when they try to res you since you now have a 15% dp, based on 15% of your original life, you will res with less than one point, which means you res as a dead man. unless they use resurection signet to res you with all your hp, which is 1hp, you will die every time the use restore life or rebirth.
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34   #8
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What weapon and/or offhand are you using?

Superiors plus a -50 grim cesta and you are insta dead, with dp you are below resable health.

Do you have a pet with you?

Isn't there like a sybiotic bond spell or something? I am not even sure what it does, but there might be some pet involvement.

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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35   #9
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No mesmer skills involved. he said he was an R/Mo
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36   #10
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He's a 13 R/Mo. hehehe
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38   #11
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And here are some of the responses I get when I do this trick:

"wtf?"
"LOL"
"That was 15 seconds, pay up" (obvious lie)
"hahaha"
"how'd you do that?"
"do it again without that skill" (I do, they still can't keep me alive)
"scammer!" (what are they losing from this?)
"wait, I wasn't ready!" (i.e. 'that was too fast for me to do anything')
"hax!" (this 'trick' is totally legit)
"lemme get some new skills"


And one special mention from an angry monk:
monk: "omg noob, go learn GW."
[monk leaves party]
me: "hey, not my fault a lvl 20 monk can't keep me alive for 15 seconds. How am I the noob?"
monk: "you killed yourself"
me: "yep. explaining how I die was never part of the challenge, but you're more than welcome to try again."
monk: "I'm not the noob. I have 15k armor and 2 ascended chars! you don't know anything about GW"
me: "I know how to bug know-it-all monks with big egos. "
monk: "come back when you know GW"
[ignores monk]

What this monk didn't know is that I usually give people that joined me gold for being good sports. But I don't give the jerks anything.
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38   #12
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I'd like to point out its R/Mo13 for all you suggesting mesmer spells
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:39 PM // 16:39   #13
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As I said above, 55 monk setup on your lower health, with CoP and a vamp weapon? That'd strip all the buffs instantly and you could die by weapon swap.
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40   #14
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I will put 7 enchants in you and cast Symbiosis and you will not die...
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:41 PM // 16:41   #15
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I will put 7 enchants in you and cast Symbiosis and you will not die...
Contemplation of Purity - removes all enchants.
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:41 PM // 16:41   #16
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Originally Posted by Unclean
And here are some of the responses I get when I do this trick:

"wtf?"
"LOL"
"That was 15 seconds, pay up" (obvious lie)
"hahaha"
"how'd you do that?"
"do it again without that skill" (I do, they still can't keep me alive)
"scammer!" (what are they losing from this?)
"wait, I wasn't ready!" (i.e. 'that was too fast for me to do anything')
"hax!" (this 'trick' is totally legit)
"lemme get some new skills"


And one special mention from an angry monk:
monk: "omg noob, go learn GW."
[monk leaves party]
me: "hey, not my fault a lvl 20 monk can't keep me alive for 15 seconds. How am I the noob?"
monk: "you killed yourself"
me: "yep. explaining how I die was never part of the challenge, but you're more than welcome to try again."
monk: "I'm not the noob. I have 15k armor and 2 ascended chars! you don't know anything about GW"
me: "I know how to bug know-it-all monks with big egos. "
monk: "come back when you know GW"
[ignores monk]

What this monk didn't know is that I usually give people that joined me gold for being good sports. But I don't give the jerks anything.
Hey let's wallow in narcissistic crap for a while okay?

Okay, you can kill yourself fast. Good job. You win at dying. I don't know if that's anything to boast about.
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:45 PM // 16:45   #17
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Epinephrine got it. Nice job!

One thing no one got is how I die instantly from a res, though. It's quite simple, really. Just think it through.

New question: what happens if someone casts that nature ritual that gives all creatures +X life? Then I can't drain my life fast enough, and I can't strip the enchantment with Contemplation of Purity.

@Kakumei - I'm not boasting. Just having a good time. And hopefully others are having a good time trying to put the puzzle together and imagining how people react to this.

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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:47 PM // 16:47   #18
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Sure it is something to boast about. It is a fun challenge, people he deals with feel stupid that they think they can do something and can't then get all pissy about it.

We can all find little challenges to boast about in the game. Got one of every time of armor? each skin of weapon? Finished every bonus? Explored the whole map? I am sure that you will always find someone who thinks that is nothing to boast about.

This is his thing. Seems like a fun challenge. But since he said that we could ask whatever questions we wanted, he didn't say he would answer them.
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50   #19
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@Kakumei - I'm not boasting. Just having a good time. And hopefully others are having a good time trying to put the puzzle together and imagining how people react to this.
I don't mind posting the puzzle. That's fine, and a neat idea. But to post purported conversations with those you 'stumped'? That's a bit too much ego stroking for my tastes.
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Old Mar 10, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51   #20
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One thing no one got is how I die instantly from a res, though. It's quite simple, really. Just think it through.
Well no res will bring you back with essentially a negative health point at that level.

If you are at 340 with the 5 runes taking you down to 1HP, using a -50 cesta would take you below resable health, even res sig or Vengeance. Then factor in DP. Even a level 20 can't be rebirthed without instadying.
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